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Hughes Dewailly was one of the brokers that scammed my parents. According to BJ Cooke, he didn't work for PRL. According to Debbie Berra, on-site manager at Sunset Harbor Resorts, he is an independent broker that they paid commissions to for selling their timeshares. Patrick Thompson was his sidekick at this con game in Louisiana. We also listed PRL & SHR in our complaints.

deborahc338 wrote:

This is a long list! In my complaint to FTC I listed SHR and PRL. I've started the complaint form for TX REC--who, or, which group, should I include. The scammers for my sale were Hughes Dewailly and Eric Pleuger--I don't see them listed very much in this forum. I spoke with a RCI supervisor today, and he said he didn't know them, or if they worked for RCI. Should they be listed in my complaint?

Texas Real Estate division wouldn't even record my complaint because the actual con game didn't happen in Texas. They referred me to the Federal Trade Commission. Did any of you that filed with TRE not have your con happen in Tx????

Bad news: Three months after telling my parents that their dispute was approved and the decision was final, Bank of America now says that SHR protested one of the two charges & BofA has to reverse the credit that was issued. It doesn't make sense that SHR didn't protest the other credit because both of the original charges were for the timeshare purchase, not other fees or dues like one other guy on here posted, but now $5500 of the original $9500 is back on the credit card acct. Interesting that the BofA lady had a copy of a deed that my parents were never sent, but no stamp that it had ever been recorded at the Montgomery County courthouse.

Hughes Dewailly and Patrick Thompson worked for Silverleaf and left there Jan. 2011 to go to work for PRL ( Guy Russell & B.J. Cooke) owners. They work for PRL for about one year and are now back at Silverleaf - Fox River Resort in Sheridan, IL . Called Sunset Harbor and they say that these two never were employed by SHR.

Posted by: johnm2748 Yesterday Jun 20, 2013

RCI Lawsuit filed June 18, 2013 against R&R Venture Group, PRL, EPS, VSI, Brandon J Cooke and Josh Fazenbaker in U.S. Federal District Court, Florida Middle District Court, by RCI.

28:1338 Trademark Infringement

http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/trademark-lawsuits/florida-middle-district-co urt/527435/rci-tm-corp-et-al-v-r-r-venture-group-llc-et-al/summary/

No where in this lawsuit is there a mention of Sunset Harbor, Don't you think that the legal team at RCI won't have included them if they thought they were a part of the scammers listed above?

And the same goes for Bank of America... They just don't give money away for no reason, think about.

If we all just stick to the facts, these guys will get what is coming to them, and then maybe we will all get our money.

And Tina, you said, "According to BJ Cooke, he didn't work for PRL." and you believe B.J.? and Debbie , you said, she said, " he is an independent broker that they paid commissions to for selling their timeshares." He was, for PRL, Brandon B.J. Cooke's company.

I'm only going by facts, no he said, she said.

That's why I wrote "according to"... I have no way of telling who they worked for. I didn't say I believed it, just that's what I was told by BJ and Debbie. How do you know who Hughes and Patrick worked for?

Tinak117, I have for a long time now not answered questions because I just could not give the right answers at that time. I have had many talks with RCI and they ask me not to say some things on here. I have been ask by two AG's to please wait until they finish what they are working on. I told everyone on here about 33 days ago that this was all coming to a head in 30 days and to just sit back and wait. Today one of B.J.'s teams at Logan's Roadhouse in Huntsville, AL was ask to leave because of what someone heard here on these post, so they went there and took the police with them. In the Denver, CO area this past week, two restaurants were tipped off by Ruby Tuesdays in Allentown, PA because of what they read here. Next week will be the same. These post are now read everyday by so many people and so many people are been saved from being scammed because of this site. We ALL need to be careful what is said here. When these scammers are put away for good, you will be one of the first to hear about it. Right here where we made it happen. I will tell you that the information I put here about Hughes and Patrick I received from a company officer at Silverleaf and hire dates from PRL paperwork. And that is all I can say. I know this post will have many asking many more questions now, but most of those will be coming from B.J. and Guy's plants that slip into this forum from time to time. Everyone should just sit back, good things are right around the corner.

tinak117 wrote:

Bad news: Three months after telling my parents that their dispute was approved and the decision was final, Bank of America now says that SHR protested one of the two charges & BofA has to reverse the credit that was issued. It doesn't make sense that SHR didn't protest the other credit because both of the original charges were for the timeshare purchase, not other fees or dues like one other guy on here posted, but now $5500 of the original $9500 is back on the credit card acct. Interesting that the BofA lady had a copy of a deed that my parents were never sent, but no stamp that it had ever been recorded at the Montgomery County courthouse.

(1) If I had been your parents I would have called BOA and cancelled that card after your parents got their refund. (2) Have you talked to the Montgomery County Courthouse to see if the deed was ever recorded.

boobier wrote:

Today one of B.J.'s teams at Logan's Roadhouse in Huntsville, AL was ask to leave because of what someone heard here on these post, so they went there and took the police with them. In the Denver, CO area this past week, two restaurants were tipped off by Ruby Tuesdays in Allentown, PA because of what they read here. Next week will be the same.

Kudos to whomever contacted the above restaurants about these scammers .... keep up the good work. I'm anxiously waiting for these scammers to be arrested and sent to jail.

I don't believe I've ever seen criminals that were so persistent and nonchalant .... they seem to be thumbing their noses at those people that are after them.

tinak117 wrote:

Bad news: Three months after telling my parents that their dispute was approved and the decision was final, Bank of America now says that SHR protested one of the two charges & BofA has to reverse the credit that was issued. It doesn't make sense that SHR didn't protest the other credit because both of the original charges were for the timeshare purchase, not other fees or dues like one other guy on here posted, but now $5500 of the original $9500 is back on the credit card acct.

Whatever you do, don't give up. What I don't understand is why SHR continues to abet PRL's unscrupulous tactics when they KNOW they are a scam operation .... I would certainly talk to the highest echelon at SHR .... this nightmare seems to never end and the SCAMMERS are still operating !!!!

1. Anyone one can go to the Montgomery County courthouse, Texas website and check on a deed being recorded. 2. Sunset Harbor Resort has not done business with R&R Venture Group, in the last 11 months +/- and never did hire PRL. PRL was hired by R&R Venture after the fact. The Texas Real Estate Division, The AG's and RCI know this to be ture . ( but yes it is hard for us all to believe this ). But it is the fact. 3. Sunset Harbor Resort (according to RCI) is in good standing and was not listed in the Law Suit. 4. BOA has not done business with credit cards in over 2 years +/- with RCI. 5. Texas Real Estate Division is very aware of what has happened and has chosen to work with that resort and but still understand the problem was owned by R&R Venture Group, LLC and PRL Point Rental Liquidators. 6. If the resort was one of the main players in this scam the Texas Real Estate Division, RCI, ARDA and the Texas AG's office would have shut them down ASAP. 7. R&R Venture Group & PRL in the last year has gone from a. 11 teams working down to 3 teams working buy being kicked out of places. b. 2 marketing teams down to 1 as of 4 days ago. c. Having a merchant account to run credit cards down to taking checks. d. Restaurants now are calling each other and giving info to shut them down. e. RCI has filed a law suit against all the top companies operating the scam. f. Selling resorts (Vacation Villages, Sunset Harbor, Club Trinidad, Leigh Resort Club) down to just Clubs (air) g. Stealing money from anyone they wanted down to not reaching the ones we all saved from going to meeting because of this site. It is so very important that we still have everyone go and file on the AG's website, send a letter and file or keep calling. If you go back to page 1 here on this forum and just look at how far this has come you will see everyone (many people) have helped bring it this far. Lets not stop now. Lets stay focused. As jayjay said, "Whatever you do, don't give up."

Tina posted the message below in Aug. 2012 .... I don't see how SHR cannot be involved in this mess.

tinak117 wrote:

"Unfortunately, BOA still has not received any requests for credits or refunds from SHR. What I have found out is that PRL did not receive any of my parents' money, SHR did, so BJ/PRL can't issue a refund. The refund will have to come from SHR. Apparently, SHR paid commissions to Hughes Dewailly & Pat Thompson (brokers/sales reps). Hughes & Pat are the main "bad guys" here, but SHR should issue refunds because they've been made aware that Hughes & Pat are lying to people to con them into signing the contract, which our lawyer says makes the whole contract invalid. I've been researching (and filing complaints and posting on bulletin boards) for a month now and I have learned a lot. I am still hoping to get this resolved for my parents. I will keep you informed".

boobier wrote:

6. If the resort was one of the main players in this scam the Texas Real Estate Division, RCI, ARDA and the Texas AG's office would have shut them down ASAP.

Please look at my post above .... how can SHR not be involved?

From what I've found out is that R&R Venture Group, LLC entered into a arrangement with Sunset Harbor in Texas to buy Units (inventory) to sell. R&R Venture Group opened a office calling it the Regional Office under Sunset Harbor's name. Then the owner of R&R Venture Group, Guy Russell had Business cards with Sunset Harbor's name on them for his sales people made (order through Sarah Rutten). Russell then hired a computer guy to set up all the contracts using Sunset Harbor's name and address. Because thats what his guys were selling. (he did this with different resorts.) All paychecks came from R&R Venture Group, LLC. All W-2's / 1099's etc. came from R&R Venture Group, LLC. All refunds were handled by Lisa Benza who worked for Guy Russell. Every time R&R Venture Group, LLC sold a unit Sunset Harbor would get paid for it. Meanwhile, Sunset Harbor had nothing to do with Guy Russell's office staff, sales teams or the creating of PRL. This has been gone over and over by many many lawyers, RCI, AG's and the Texas Real Estate Commission. Did people like Hughes Dewailly & Pat Thompson get paid for selling Sunset Harbor Inventory ? YES, but not paid by Sunset Harbor, they all were paid by R&R Venture Group, LLC. They also were never paid by PRL. Only R&R Venture Group, LLC. The contract was and is VALID, because they were selling a timeshare unit just like the rest of the world sells. The PRL contract is the problem, no body ever got paid by PRL for selling the points. PRL was owned by R&R Venture Group, LLC, Robert Guy Russell's company. once again, Tinak117, your parents were scammed, but like them they have scammed everyone from the start. and they have been doing it for years. This thing is still going to court, lets all pray we see something comes out of this. RCI is worried that Guy and Nonna Russell & Brandon B.J. Cooke won't be found. Vacation Villas, Sunset Harbor and many other resorts were scammed just like you , me and 1000's of other. Wish I could say more now but I will say more is coming very soon. Hang in there.

jayjay wrote:

Tina posted the message below in Aug. 2012 .... I don't see how SHR cannot be involved in this mess.

tinak117 wrote:

"Unfortunately, BOA still has not received any requests for credits or refunds from SHR. What I have found out is that PRL did not receive any of my parents' money, SHR did, so BJ/PRL can't issue a refund. The refund will have to come from SHR. Apparently, SHR paid commissions to Hughes Dewailly & Pat Thompson (brokers/sales reps). Hughes & Pat are the main "bad guys" here, but SHR should issue refunds because they've been made aware that Hughes & Pat are lying to people to con them into signing the contract, which our lawyer says makes the whole contract invalid. I've been researching (and filing complaints and posting on bulletin boards) for a month now and I have learned a lot. I am still hoping to get this resolved for my parents. I will keep you informed".

jayjay wrote:

boobier wrote:

6. If the resort was one of the main players in this scam the Texas Real Estate Division, RCI, ARDA and the Texas AG's office would have shut them down ASAP.

Please look at my post above .... how can SHR not be involved?

Because Boobier is the resort jay jay. Obviously. What he knows and how long his knowledge goes back it is the resort. Why do you think he ALWAYS tries to protect the resort in every post. The resort had the credit card merchant account and even had a separate one they opened to run the $498 separate for prl. Boobier is either Bill Mitchell, Dusty Lamb, or jimmy Adams. All people that hate Guy and BJ because they left them and they want to place blame where it doesn't belong. You think sunset harbor left R&R? I have screen shots of Bill Mitchell essentially crying "Don't do this!?" "Please don't leave" Boobier is one of those 3 pathetic men and doesn't have a spine to say who he is. Never will. Hide behind a screen name that is the nickname of the Russell's brain damaged son. You seem to know so much for not being an ex employee. Is your name James Adams? Were you the one that ran Resort Exchanges LLC that had several broker teams and also ran the marketing to get people to come to the meetings? Some clients mention getting called by Georgia and some say Vegas. We're you the Vegas company? Do you have enough decency to say who you are at all or do you simply choose to hide behind the nickname that the Russell's have for their injured son. Man up you coward. How demented is the coward that hides behind a screen name that is the nickname of a 6 year old boy that is brain damaged from a pool accident years ago? I think you are one of the bad guys trying to keep focus on R&R and you are probably the part of the slime from that crappy resort. Prove us different? Or just stay in the weeds like a little girl. When you and DonP sit for lunch he should know what you did. If I was watching this forum I wouldn't value a single post from you until you say your name and get out from behind an injured little boy's name you pathetic excuse for a human. Slime

jay jay, I wish I had the answer you need but I can tell you that so many agents from the Government, lawyers from many states, the legal department at RCI, Texas Real Estate Comm. have gone over this for the last 11 months. And at this time Sunset Harbor is fighting just like the rest of us and is not included in the suit.

jayjay wrote:

boobier wrote:

6. If the resort was one of the main players in this scam the Texas Real Estate Division, RCI, ARDA and the Texas AG's office would have shut them down ASAP.

Please look at my post above .... how can SHR not be involved?

Obviously Haroldk35 is BJ himself. I can tell by his rant. BJ enjoy your trips to the strip clubs and massage parlors while you can. Eventually when you get convicted and sent to the big house you will be living up to your initials. Every dog has his day and yours is coming. One piece of advice BJ... use " condom sense " during your time in prison.

He should buy the korean song CD "Condom Style" to take with him. ____________ Just thought it was time for a dumb joke ____________ donp196, you can spot him way before I can, good job, (Haroldk35) ____________ You know , this last post could be Guy or Nonna Russell, I really don't care. The one thing I do know, is who we are , our name is not on the list. ____________ Going to go send some time with my kids, talk later. ____________

donp196 wrote:

Obviously Haroldk35 is BJ himself. I can tell by his rant. BJ enjoy your trips to the strip clubs and massage parlors while you can. Eventually when you get convicted and sent to the big house you will be living up to your initials. Every dog has his day and yours is coming. One piece of advice BJ... use " condom sense " during your time in prison.

Well who are you Boobier? Too big of a coward to say? Jay jay is right

All I know is what Tina posted above ..... I was going by that.