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raym9 wrote:

Marty, If Redweek has well over a million members, then it appears that Redweek would be more responsive to a request that has been made multiple times by customers and apparently ignored. In all due respect this is only a notch above the upfront fee sellers who once they have the customers' money, there is little responsiveness after that.

Do what? You're comparing Redweek to upfront fee resale scam companies that charge in the hundreds of dollars to list a timeshare in a database that no one ever sees???

And even if someone did see the ad, the owner of the timeshare has been told by the upfront fee scam companies that they can get big bucks for their resale timeshare .... and other out and out lies. Nobody is going to pay developer prices for a resale timeshare.

Redweek doesn't phone anybody with upfront free scams and lies. People come here of their own free will to place ads, nobody is being lied to. When people place an ad here they know upfront what the fees and terms and conditions are. Redweek is a timeshare ad listing site, they don't twist anyone's arm to place an ad here.

To put it bluntly, you're comparing apples to oranges when you put Redweek in the same sleazy category as upfront fee scam companies.

It's quite evident that you're employed or you own an upfront fee resale scam company that's business is dead in the water due to education presented here and other timeshare forums concerning your scam.

marty8084 wrote:

jayjay wrote:

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Your personal defensiveness and defense of Redweek leaves you with little credibility.

My personal defensiveness of Redweek has to do with their business model and the ease of placing an ad here.

I have liked Redweek's business model since it's beginning several years ago. I have had dealings with other timeshare ad sites that are not nearly as easy to navigate and place ads as Redweek and I've sold several timeshares via Redweek. Now, whether or not that explanation adds or detracts from my credibility is a matter of personal opinion.

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You stated that Redweek has over 1 million members.

That number was formerly at the top of this page, so if they had over a million members then, they have well over a million members now with the advent of their their new exchange company.

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You also stated that you have no idea of the "complexities" of programming a counter on rental ads.

Correct, I'm not a software programmer. If you have questions pertaining to adding a counter then email Redweek directly. That's the only way it'll get done, however Marty has already stated that it's not how many people have looked at an ad, it's how many people email the owner of an ad .... Bidshares is a prime example with sometimes hundreds of lookers but no bidders.

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With memberships charges of $14.99 per year, rental ad charges of $19.99 for 6 months and resale posting charges of $49.99 per year, Redweek looks to be generating revenue of $15 million on memberships alone and another $15 million on ads. that is $30 million a year to operate a very simple website.I think that is adequate margin to program a counter.

Yes, Redweek is a profit making business, they're not a charity.

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Jayjay, Redweek has to be one of the most profitable, if not the most profitable timeshare related businesses going. So please, do your math homework. Regards.

I agree ... the CEO (Randy Conrads) of Redweek had a vision and that vision was a profit making venture ..... nothing wrong with that. Many internet sites have made substantial profits, if not millions, as thriving internet commerce businesses. Maurice is also the owner/inventor of classmates.com.

I just want to clear up a few things. RedWeek.com has well over 1 million registered users.

You can also read more about the CEO and founder of the company by clicking on the "About Us" link at the bottom of every page.

Thanks, Marty

jayjay wrote:

marty8084 wrote:

jayjay wrote:

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Your personal defensiveness and defense of Redweek leaves you with little credibility.

My personal defensiveness of Redweek has to do with their business model and the ease of placing an ad here.

I have liked Redweek's business model since it's beginning several years ago. I have had dealings with other timeshare ad sites that are not nearly as easy to navigate and place ads as Redweek and I've sold several timeshares via Redweek. Now, whether or not that explanation adds or detracts from my credibility is a matter of personal opinion.

Quote:

You stated that Redweek has over 1 million members.

That number was formerly at the top of this page, so if they had over a million members then, they have well over a million members now with the advent of their their new exchange company.

Quote:

You also stated that you have no idea of the "complexities" of programming a counter on rental ads.

Correct, I'm not a software programmer. If you have questions pertaining to adding a counter then email Redweek directly. That's the only way it'll get done, however Marty has already stated that it's not how many people have looked at an ad, it's how many people email the owner of an ad .... Bidshares is a prime example with sometimes hundreds of lookers but no bidders.

Quote:

With memberships charges of $14.99 per year, rental ad charges of $19.99 for 6 months and resale posting charges of $49.99 per year, Redweek looks to be generating revenue of $15 million on memberships alone and another $15 million on ads. that is $30 million a year to operate a very simple website.I think that is adequate margin to program a counter.

Yes, Redweek is a profit making business, they're not a charity.

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Jayjay, Redweek has to be one of the most profitable, if not the most profitable timeshare related businesses going. So please, do your math homework. Regards.

I agree ... the CEO (Randy Conrads) of Redweek had a vision and that vision was a profit making venture ..... nothing wrong with that. Many internet sites have made substantial profits, if not millions, as thriving internet commerce businesses. Maurice is also the owner/inventor of classmates.com.

I just want to clear up a few things. RedWeek.com has well over 1 million registered users.

You can also read more about the CEO and founder of the company by clicking on the "About Us" link at the bottom of every page.

Thanks, Marty

Jayjay, I did not ask you to respond. You are a one trick pony with the same simple scripted message. My statement was directed to Marty. Marty, I still see Redweek as being unresponsive to a simple customer request that you stated has been requested many times. A page counter is very simple to add at little or no cost to Redweek, especially considering the value added fro customers.

raym9 wrote:

jayjay wrote:

marty8084 wrote:

jayjay wrote:

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Your personal defensiveness and defense of Redweek leaves you with little credibility.

My personal defensiveness of Redweek has to do with their business model and the ease of placing an ad here.

I have liked Redweek's business model since it's beginning several years ago. I have had dealings with other timeshare ad sites that are not nearly as easy to navigate and place ads as Redweek and I've sold several timeshares via Redweek. Now, whether or not that explanation adds or detracts from my credibility is a matter of personal opinion.

Quote:

You stated that Redweek has over 1 million members.

That number was formerly at the top of this page, so if they had over a million members then, they have well over a million members now with the advent of their their new exchange company.

Quote:

You also stated that you have no idea of the "complexities" of programming a counter on rental ads.

Correct, I'm not a software programmer. If you have questions pertaining to adding a counter then email Redweek directly. That's the only way it'll get done, however Marty has already stated that it's not how many people have looked at an ad, it's how many people email the owner of an ad .... Bidshares is a prime example with sometimes hundreds of lookers but no bidders.

Quote:

With memberships charges of $14.99 per year, rental ad charges of $19.99 for 6 months and resale posting charges of $49.99 per year, Redweek looks to be generating revenue of $15 million on memberships alone and another $15 million on ads. that is $30 million a year to operate a very simple website.I think that is adequate margin to program a counter.

Yes, Redweek is a profit making business, they're not a charity.

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Jayjay, Redweek has to be one of the most profitable, if not the most profitable timeshare related businesses going. So please, do your math homework. Regards.

I agree ... the CEO (Randy Conrads) of Redweek had a vision and that vision was a profit making venture ..... nothing wrong with that. Many internet sites have made substantial profits, if not millions, as thriving internet commerce businesses. Maurice is also the owner/inventor of classmates.com.

I just want to clear up a few things. RedWeek.com has well over 1 million registered users.

You can also read more about the CEO and founder of the company by clicking on the "About Us" link at the bottom of every page.

Thanks, Marty

Jayjay, I did not ask you to respond. You are a one trick pony with the same simple scripted message. My statement was directed to Marty. Marty, I still see Redweek as being unresponsive to a simple customer request that you stated has been requested many times. A page counter is very simple to add at little or no cost to Redweek, especially considering the value added fro customers.

Hi Ray,

There really isn't any more to say then what I've already posted. The true value is in the number of inquiries received. There is really no benefit to the counters -- for us or the member. Is a member more likely to stick with RedWeek if they see that they have received 100 'hits' on their ad, but no inquiries?

Marty

marty8084 wrote:

raym9 wrote:

jayjay wrote:

marty8084 wrote:

jayjay wrote:

Quote:

Your personal defensiveness and defense of Redweek leaves you with little credibility.

My personal defensiveness of Redweek has to do with their business model and the ease of placing an ad here.

I have liked Redweek's business model since it's beginning several years ago. I have had dealings with other timeshare ad sites that are not nearly as easy to navigate and place ads as Redweek and I've sold several timeshares via Redweek. Now, whether or not that explanation adds or detracts from my credibility is a matter of personal opinion.

Quote:

You stated that Redweek has over 1 million members.

That number was formerly at the top of this page, so if they had over a million members then, they have well over a million members now with the advent of their their new exchange company.

Quote:

You also stated that you have no idea of the "complexities" of programming a counter on rental ads.

Correct, I'm not a software programmer. If you have questions pertaining to adding a counter then email Redweek directly. That's the only way it'll get done, however Marty has already stated that it's not how many people have looked at an ad, it's how many people email the owner of an ad .... Bidshares is a prime example with sometimes hundreds of lookers but no bidders.

Quote:

With memberships charges of $14.99 per year, rental ad charges of $19.99 for 6 months and resale posting charges of $49.99 per year, Redweek looks to be generating revenue of $15 million on memberships alone and another $15 million on ads. that is $30 million a year to operate a very simple website.I think that is adequate margin to program a counter.

Yes, Redweek is a profit making business, they're not a charity.

Quote:

Jayjay, Redweek has to be one of the most profitable, if not the most profitable timeshare related businesses going. So please, do your math homework. Regards.

I agree ... the CEO (Randy Conrads) of Redweek had a vision and that vision was a profit making venture ..... nothing wrong with that. Many internet sites have made substantial profits, if not millions, as thriving internet commerce businesses. Maurice is also the owner/inventor of classmates.com.

I just want to clear up a few things. RedWeek.com has well over 1 million registered users.

You can also read more about the CEO and founder of the company by clicking on the "About Us" link at the bottom of every page.

Thanks, Marty

Jayjay, I did not ask you to respond. You are a one trick pony with the same simple scripted message. My statement was directed to Marty. Marty, I still see Redweek as being unresponsive to a simple customer request that you stated has been requested many times. A page counter is very simple to add at little or no cost to Redweek, especially considering the value added fro customers.

Hi Ray,

There really isn't any more to say then what I've already posted. The true value is in the number of inquiries received. There is really no benefit to the counters -- for us or the member. Is a member more likely to stick with RedWeek if they see that they have received 100 'hits' on their ad, but no inquiries?

Marty

Marty, Yes, a page counter has value if the customer sees the value. As a Redweek member and customer, I see value in knowing if a potential buyer or renter is even looking at my ad. I could learn that my timeshare has no value whatsoever because very few people are even looking at it. If I have a lot of lookers and no inquiries, then my price may be too high. I am informed enough to know that a lot of persons looking at pages are just comparing prices and have no interest in renting or buying.

marty8084 wrote:

Jayjay, I did not ask you to respond. You are a one trick pony with the same simple scripted message.

So, now you're into namecalling (one trick pony?) .... that's what people do when they get desperate ..... you don't know me from Adam's housecat.

I come to Redweek's forums each day to try educate people on the subject of timesharing from what I've learned throughout the years. If you don't like my posts, then simply skip reading them.

FYI, I made a request once to the staff at Redweek to please try a different software for the forums to make reading and keeping up with all the posts easier .... many posts just seem to run together, but it didn't happen. I didn't pout and hold a grudge, I simply moved on. It's their site and they can do what they wish.

You putting Redweek in the same category as upfront fee resale company scams was the straw that broke the camel's back for me .... there is NO comparison.

marty8084 wrote:

raym9 wrote:

Marty, I agree with Ray. If no one is LOOKING at my ad then maybe RedWeek is NOT the proper place to list my TS for Sale or Rent. I don't want to keep throwing my money into something that is not working.

View counters are analogous to a person running a retail business. People stop in to LOOK, but for some reason they are not buying. Maybe his prices are too high or maybe the merchandise is inferior.

If NO one even stopped in his shop to LOOK at his merchandise, then it might be that the shop is in the wrong location and it is time to move on to a different spot. I don't think he would continue to lease a building where no one even walks through his door.

Jayjay, I too have sent emails to RedWeek Staff with simple suggestions that have basically been put on the "check is in the mail" pile. It's frustrating, but I live with it. At times, you and I both try to walk people through RedWeek sites, that could be negotiated easier with a couple of well placed links.

For example, there is a link to the Timeshare Calendars from the "Resources" link at the top of the page. I've suggested that a link also be put under "Advanced Search" feature of the Rental/Sale section. Since I can search only for MONTHS or WEEKS, it would be nice to have access to the calendar from that page.

Others have asked how about renting or selling their points. While there is a Points for Sale section in the RedWishes, there is no "Points for Rent" section. There are people who own Diamond (Sunterra) points, Wyndham Points, or even RedWeek points that could be used to book units (by request) then rented. Furthermore, it seems more logical that the "Selling/Renting" of points be located in the "For Sale/For Rent" section. RedWeek knows it will lose $$$ if it moves Point transactions from the RedWishes to the For Sale/Rent section. RedWish listings are over $85/year ($10/6 wks), while For Sale and For Rent listings are only $50or $40/year ($20/6mos), respectively.

Compared to some timeshare owner websites, this one is a dream of simplicity to use, but I would like to repeat a previous plea that we use some sort of identification at the end of each post: name, nick-name, initials, etc. In a long series of related posts, one sometimes needs to scroll for miles to try to decide who said what--and sometimes it still is not clear. When we are addressing a specific person (As in "You are an idiot"), it is also good to start with the ID of the person addressed. Of course that is also nice if you have a compliment to give! We could do with LESS name calling. MD

adahiscout wrote:

Compared to some timeshare owner websites, this one is a dream of simplicity to use, but I would like to repeat a previous plea that we use some sort of identification at the end of each post: name, nick-name, initials, etc. In a long series of related posts, one sometimes needs to scroll for miles to try to decide who said what--and sometimes it still is not clear. When we are addressing a specific person (As in "You are an idiot"), it is also good to start with the ID of the person addressed. Of course that is also nice if you have a compliment to give! We could do with LESS name calling. MD

I agree with you that Redweek's forums are hard to navigate as sometimes the posts just seem to run together in a thread .... that's why I requested to Redweek's staff (via email) if they would please look into a forum software that was easier to navigate and browse. This would be a definite benefit to Redweek forum members.

I give kudos to TUG for the ease in reading and navigating their forums.

BTW, TUG's software is vBulletin version 3.6.4.

Adahiscout you are right that this is a simple site to use in most cases and adding the person's name your responding to helps!

Main problem on here and always has been is one person likes to take apart others post and quote all or part{which ever fits her reply best} of a statement and then give her response.

After a while like on this post there are aprox 18 post that have a quote from another person or the same post over and over again because each reply just adds to the first post.

This full post is only two pages long and only has about 25 post on here and this is a waste of space and time to read them.

Maybe Redweek should put a stop to all this breaking down others post even though its on their behalf with (QUOTE) and then high lighted remarks after each quote!

Try each post with wrote by or persons name like I started this one and then give your response and that is it!

Next person does same thing and only one person gets response at a time.

This might also cut out hard feelings and fights amoung people trying to use this forum.

Keep everyone's posting on the same playing field like no high lighting one persons replies on here.

High lighting has always been taken as yelling on line and bad manners anyway!

Darlene!

darlenep30 wrote:

Adahiscout you are right that this is a simple site to use in most cases and adding the person's name your responding to helps!

Main problem on here and always has been is one person likes to take apart others post and quote all or part{which ever fits her reply best} of a statement and then give her response.

After a while like on this post there are aprox 18 post that have a quote from another person or the same post over and over again because each reply just adds to the first post.

This full post is only two pages long and only has about 25 post on here and this is a waste of space and time to read them.

Maybe Redweek should put a stop to all this breaking down others post even though its on their behalf with (QUOTE) and then high lighted remarks after each quote!

Try each post with wrote by or persons name like I started this one and then give your response and that is it!

Next person does same thing and only one person gets response at a time.

This might also cut out hard feelings and fights amoung people trying to use this forum.

Keep everyone's posting on the same playing field like no high lighting one persons replies on here.

High lighting has always been taken as yelling on line and bad manners anyway!

Darlene!

It looks like Redweek is trying to change their forums for the better. However when you want to quote a specific person's post, you must check 'quote original message in your reply' box below and the message comes up in white.

Like above post .... as far as I know this is new.

So sign your posts already! (please) MD