The Manhattan Club

Manhattan Club Lawsuit

Dec 24, 2017

I seriously doubt that NYC would take it. They have no record of what you own. How would it be applied? You could tell them to credit it to TMC's account, but why? You owe it to TMC, not NYC. I believe the net effect would be you giving a gift to TMC.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone. Lets hope the new year will bring some resolution and make most of us somewhat satisfied.


William M.

Last edited by williamm465 on Dec 24, 2017 06:29 AM

Dec 24, 2017

Everyone have a Merry Christmas and hope that something works out in our favor in 2018/N.Harmon


Nancy A.
Dec 25, 2017

This is Jia Fang Xu. I want to join the lawsuit.


Jia F.
Dec 25, 2017

Jia Fang Xu

There is no lawsuit. There never was a lawsuit. There has been much talk of lawsuits, but none was ever successful launched. There was a 3 year investigation by the NY Attorney General which ended in a settlement with the MC this past fall, which is now slowly unwinding. We are all waiting for the next step of that process. I recommend that you visit the NYSAG website and search for the Manhattan Club AOD. It makes depressing reading, but it is the only legal action concerning this situation which has any authority.


Nathan Z.
Dec 26, 2017

Hi Jia Fang Xu, I had fielded the idea of each individual owner filing a small claims law suit of their own. This has proven very successful for me in many other instances like auto accidents and dealing with auto sales people. I have a perfect win record. It doesn't take a lot of preparation, and unlike what others will tell you, you don't have to file in NYC, you can file where you live. The MC then has to send a lawyer there or not show and then you win. You may lose in appeal but who cares? The idea is to make yourself a nuisance just like they have been and.... you might win. All you really have to do is go to your county seat, file there, and document yourself very well. I lost all my purchase price when they repurchased mine for $200. If not I would be doing this. But all in all I'm glad to be out. If you would like to do this you can talk to me if I can be of any help, I will. Good luck. NathanZ2...I won't be responding to any insults.


Sunilda J. S.

Last edited by sunildajs on Dec 26, 2017 10:22 AM

Dec 26, 2017

You can't do that if you're out of state!


Laura H.
Dec 27, 2017

How did you get MC to repurchase your unit?


Yehuda H.
Dec 27, 2017

It was several years ago and I called up complaining about the increase in maintenance fees and the lack of availability of rooms. So Lynn O'Donnel (?) called me back and offered to buy it back for $200. All things considered it was a good thing.


Sunilda J. S.
Dec 27, 2017

Laura H. I have sued someone in NY from NJ. When we had an auto accident and she refused to acknowledge culpability. However, like I said, you have to go with much documentation. I brought drawings of the intersection, pictures of other cars making the same turns without incident, a picture of the no parking area, etc. You would have to think about what is pertinent to you. How many times you tried to get rooms and couldn't, how much your fees have increased, documentation of the property taxes unpaid by the MC...etc.


Sunilda J. S.

Last edited by sunildajs on Dec 27, 2017 08:51 AM

Dec 27, 2017

I doubt if you are going to get anywhere with filing this type of claim in your state - Eicher or the Manhattan Club or whoever you would sue would have to have a registered agent in your state or have been doing business in your state. I'm assuming you purchased your timeshare while either in NYC or after visiting there. Course, if they had held a sales presentation in your state, that might provide you with jurisdiction. Also, there is a limit to what you can sue for in small claims. Many have a $10,000 limit .


Gail J.
Dec 27, 2017

sunildajs wrote:
It was several years ago and I called up complaining about the increase in maintenance fees and the lack of availability of rooms. So Lynn O'Donnel (?) called me back and offered to buy it back for $200. All things considered it was a good thing.

As I have shared before, I gave one of mine back in June of 2014 (I inherited 2 of them)...Everything was put on hold because of the AG's investigation....I haven't had to pay fees but I also haven't seen the final papers or the $100 they were going to give me. Lynne O'Donnell said the transaction would be completed when all was sorted out with the settlement.

Last I talked to her, they were no longer buying back units, but they may take it back (you would be saving paper work fees which were $1000.00 back then) or perhaps "they" will buy back, once this all gets settled....I would call and ask her. The Financial Services number is on the TMC website.


Dks
Dec 27, 2017

Tulipblossom. Yes, my original point is to make ourselves a nuisance to them. You may win by default and if you don't who cares, we all already lost anyway. Why not go out fighting?


Sunilda J. S.

Last edited by sunildajs on Dec 27, 2017 11:31 AM

Dec 27, 2017

Have any of you sought the services of firms that help you get out of your time share legally such as Resort Release, Resort Exit Team or Vacation Ownership Consultants? I'd be interested in your feedback. Thanks


Todd H.
Dec 27, 2017

I used Resort Release a year ago to get out of a 2-bedroom villa in Orlando that I purchased in 2003. RR is excellent but expensive. I paid just under 5k, but $1200 went to pay maintenance for 2017. They “trained” me via internet video on the legal process involved in selling a timeshare. I believe I was telephone conferences before signing the agreement to make sure I had no unrealistic expectations. It’s a 9 month process for them to either find a buyer or they buy it. Mine sold in 4 months for $10 purchase. RR handled all legal paperwork, plus some one called me every month to personally update me on status. They looked up the timeshare to see if they could sell it before taking my money because they don’t really want to have to buy it. So in December 2016 when I asked about this timeshare, I also asked about TMC. RR said they would not enter into an agreement to sell my TMC until the AG’s investigation was concluded and the future was more certain. The operative realities in my narrative are the time and financial commitments I was willing to make. I hope this helps.


Jill S.
Dec 28, 2017

Great information. Thank you!


Todd H.
Dec 30, 2017

Has anyone made contact with the law firm (Aronson law firm) that was mentioned in an earlier post. I have communicated with them. Their fee is $1,400 to suspend the fees and $1,900 to made the deed go away (my words) An attorney with the firm emailed me that the HOA will suspend fees for clients of this firm. He also stated that Mr. Aaronson is in communication with the AG to relieve all his clients of their obligations. Does the HOA have that authority? And, has anyone else been in touch with this law firm. Tim


Tim C.
Dec 30, 2017

Ask them to prove that they have ever accomplished that for even one Manhattan Club owner.


Bruce G.
Dec 31, 2017

perhaps this post is a reply to another, but without the other, it eludes the issue.


Chris V.
Dec 31, 2017

???


Tim C.
Dec 31, 2017

Chris ... Bruce is suggesting that TIm ask the referenced lawfirm to prove/provide client references to the fact that they have a relationship with the NY AG's office giving him the ability to surrender their client's TMC ownership deeds without penalty, for a fee of $1900.


Charles M.

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