General Discussion

Getting rid of a time share.

Feb 28, 2009

you can put up for a price i did for a dollar and it didnt sell but had to pay them 35.00 (around that) for the listing. I believe it was a 5 day listing.


Ellen P.
Feb 28, 2009

So you never sold it ? QWhich property was it?


Sheri K.
Mar 01, 2009

Does Redweek provide any statistics on how many units are posted on Redweek for sale vs how many do in fact sell from redweek listing. Vice versa on rentals. I have never seen any statistics and this would help.

Even knowing th enumber of hits in each category would be beneficial to feel like I am connecting.


John L.
Mar 01, 2009

I don't think you can write it off unless it was an investment.

Let me get this straight . . . they want you to pay them for taking it off your hands? Do you want to pay for these unwanted timeshares again? You already purchased them once, right?

If you own them outright, just post them on RedWeek for the cost of the maintenance fee and take your loss. Ask yourself what your goal is . . . Is it just to get out from under the load, or are you trying to make money?

It's like a garage sale. If you have a garage full of crap you originally paid $30,000 for and at the end of the sale you made uh, let's say $2,000 . .. It just means that you only lost $28,000. But somehow, you are happy that you made $2,000 right?

It's a mind set. Get rid of the burden, take what you can get and go forward. Do not let anyone talk you out of more money.

If posting it for the cost of the maintenance fee does not work, post it all over the internet. Craig's list, etc, for free. Somebody wants it. You've just got to advertise it.

Check out my listing on RedWeek. Marriott Waiohai, Koloa, Hawaii. Mine is the one listed for a $19,000 annual week. Read what I wrote. We anticipate hard times and I am trying to sell our little pieces of paradise. I have received two low ball offers from Agents. I have refused them because I am trying to capture some money. But if it comes down to selling them all for the price of just the maintenance fees, I will. Don't panic Redbird. Use all the sources at hand and be ready to take your lumps.


Barbara B.
Mar 01, 2009

johnl183 wrote:
Does Redweek provide any statistics on how many units are posted on Redweek for sale vs how many do in fact sell from redweek listing. Vice versa on rentals. I have never seen any statistics and this would help.

Even knowing the number of hits in each category would be beneficial to feel like I am connecting.

If your talking about numbers forget it! There have been many postings talking about counters added to Redweek and it has been made clear by Redweek that this isn't going to happen. Very little talk from Redweek or no talk tells you they have no interest in letting members know how little in many cases happens off Redweek site.

It has been stated by Redweek to others that they have information that we do not have and its obvious they plan on keeping it this way.They throw out numbers like millions look every day at their ads but who would know if one million or one see's your ad or resorts.

If some owners knew their ad was only seen by a few people on a one year ad why would they ever pay again? They wouldn't and this would cut into the cash flow of Redweek.

Most people run a ad on here also use free sites and many that rent get the renter from the other sites and not Redweek site. I have seen many postings on other forums stating that they list on many sites and when rented go to all their sites and list as rented because this is good advertising. Redweek feels same way and will leave listings marked rented or sold past the removal date while removing ads that are still available the day the ad is up.

To some it would look like this site rented your timeshare when its possible that this site was not even seen by renter.

PHILL12


Phil L.

Last edited by phill12 on Mar 26, 2009 02:32 PM

Mar 01, 2009

phill12 wrote:
Redweek feels same way and will leave listings marked rented or sold past the removal date while removing ads that are still available the day the ad is up. PHILL12

What difference does it make what internet site was used to rent or sell a week? The owner notified Redweek that the week was rented or sold so that it can be posted on their ad here ...... sheesh!

It doesn't matter to me if you use Redweek not not, but to come here and degrade the site is uncalled for .... just don't use them if you disagree with their business model .... it's as simple as that .... try using free sites such as craigslist and see how many tire kickers and spam emails you get.


R P.
Mar 01, 2009

jayjay wrote:
What difference does it make what internet site was used to rent or sell a week? The owner notified Redweek that the week was rented or sold so that it can be posted on their ad here ...... sheesh!

It doesn't matter to me if you use Redweek not not, but to come here and degrade the site is uncalled for .... just don't use them if you disagree with their business model .... it's as simple as that .... try using free sites such as craigslist and see how many tire kickers and spam emails you get.

Jayjay you already understand that I do not like you and have told you this many times. I have not replied to your comments again last five months because as I have said your not worth the trouble.

Since you are getting back into your old game plan of jumping on every post I make I am responding.

To your first rude comment, I don't use Redweek any longer for rental ad's! Twice of wasting my money was enough with very little traffic!

The point on timeshare rentals being marked rented or sold from another site is you for one always running off at the mouth how great this site is for rentals and sales. You tell everyone that this is the number one site and it is not! Redweek is a decent site for ad's but for many it is just not worth the cost of membership and ad fee's so a small number of people can see the ads. I see you still get on your Redweek Soap Box! As stated many times owners will return to all the sites they listed on and mark unit rented. This is good advertising for renters to see this and might remember this owners name for next year. Redweek does same thing in leaving rented or sold units on the site longer well removing all units un-sold or rented on last day of ad. This is smart business. The point is just because it is marked on this site or any other site doesn't mean it was rented because it was listed here.

I stated months ago I was not spending much time on here because of having to wastes time dealing with you and nothing has changed.

I hear more about Redweek and posts about you from members on here that I get e-mails and phone calls from telling me of the going ons!

Are you still banned from Tug because I see you using their name many times now on here and dropping name of owner.

PHILL12


Phil L.

Last edited by phill12 on Mar 26, 2009 02:51 PM

Mar 02, 2009

phill12 wrote:
johnl183 wrote:
Does Redweek provide any statistics on how many units are posted on Redweek for sale vs how many do in fact sell from redweek listing. Vice versa on rentals. I have never seen any statistics and this would help.

Even knowing the number of hits in each category would be beneficial to feel like I am connecting.

If your talking about numbers forget it! There have been many postings talking about counters added to Redweek and it has been made clear by Redweek that this isn't going to happen. Very little talk from Redweek or no talk tells you they have no interest in letting members know how little in many cases happens off Redweek site.

It has been stated by Redweek to others that they have information that we do not have and its obvious they plan on keeping it this way.They throw out numbers like millions look every day at their ads but who would know if one million or one see's your ad or resorts.

If some owners knew their ad was only seen by a few people on a one year add why would they ever pay again? They wouldn't and this would cut into the cash flow of Redweek.

Most people run a ad on here also use free sites and many that rent get the renter from the other sites and not Redweek site. I have seen many postings on other forums stating that they list on many sites and when rented go to all their sites and list as rented because this is good advertising. Redweek feels same way and will leave listings marked rented or sold past the removal date while removing ads that are still available the day the ad is up.

To some it would look like this site rented your timeshare when its possible that this site was not even seen by renter.

PHILL12

Phil, why do you keep renewing your membership with RedWeek?

Marty


Marty F
Mar 02, 2009

phill12 wrote:
Jayjay you already understand that I do not like you and have told you this many times.

You don't know me so how can you dislike me? Actually, you don't like anybody that disagrees with anything you say. I simply get tired of your constant bashing of Redweek and it's policies.

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I hear more about Redweek and posts about you from members on here that I get e-mails from telling me of the going ons!

That's odd since email addresses aren't listed in the forums .... how do people email you?


R P.

Last edited by jayjay on Mar 02, 2009 08:27 AM

Mar 02, 2009

jayjay wrote:
That's odd since email addresses aren't listed in the forums .... how do people email you?

I do realize this is what you think is a sly way to call me a liar as you have with many others on here! I have exchange e-mails and phone numbers with many people on here through ads and others through Tug pm site. I have had steady contact with Redweek/Tug members that you think I don't get along with. There is just so much a know-it-all like yourself doesn't understand goes on here with the nice members! I don't know many of the regulars on Redweek that are not Tug members also so contact is very easy for us. Last Fourth of July we even had dinner at The Chart House in Lake Tahoe with another Redweek family that I had met on here and enjoyed the Fire Works Show on the lake! These are nice people that I have talked with me many times.

Since I don't spend very much time on here because as I told you last year I was sick of dealing with you and question why it is you knowing how much I dislike you still follow me around like a crazy women jumping on every post I make. I get e-mails when they think I would want to read a post and most involve you bothering someone else on here only because these people know I don't come on every day.

As far as my statements or opinions I have spoke nothing but the truth while answering others questions on here. I'm not here promoting Redweek like you do but trying to help others as I have for a few years now. I didn't pay my membership fee's and ad fee's to Redweek just to premote this site but to use it and learn from other owners and help when I can. This seems to be one of your problems because it is obvious you want to answer all questions and hate having anyone else help.

Attn: Marty, To your rude question of why do I keep renewing my membership with Redweek maybe you should do a fact check and you would see I have not renewed and had not paid for another ad in long time! You come on with a dumb posting just to protect your jayjay as you have for years now. You also try to turn off paying members {Like myself} while knickel and diming everyone you can on here. Redweek because of these problems and Jayjay has lost many good members last few years. Funny part after I didn't renew you people kept sending me e-mails to rejoin! You still send me updates to this day.

UPDATE: I see that Redweek has finally run their poorly run exchange into the ground and now DAE taking it over. I wouldn't call it a merger but guess Redweek trying to save face in the fact they had decent idea but not the knowledge to run it correctly! Seems there pricing some profit into every move {Nickel and Dime} didn't help any better than letting exchangers rent out the units without owners even knowing it. As poorly as Redweek is run I wouldn't be shocked to read in a time that Redweek has gone out of business. How long can you have couple people answer all post and one always siding with Redweek against all other members and not even a timeshare owner? How long can you have same questions asked day after day with same answers? The only thing changing is how many scammers now posting trying to get others to give their money away while the same answers and conversations just get repeated week after week? Only thing that changes on most postings is the date of the post!

Many of the new post seem to be from new people who later are called scammers or shills!

PHILL12


Phil L.

Last edited by phill12 on Oct 20, 2010 04:24 PM

Mar 02, 2009

Hello, Some RCI resorts will let you turn in your T/S. Then they sell them on a take-over cost. Very little to a buyer.


Tony L.
Mar 03, 2009

Try a charity. Good Luck. I could not even give mine away. Ask Sunterra if they would take it back.


Amma M.
Mar 04, 2009

Sunterra is now Diamond Resorts and they will not take it back. Actually the resort itself will not take it back. I have explored the option of giving it to give it to a charity. They dont want it because there is a perpetual maintenance fee. I just want to give it away because we cannot travel anymore. It is a lovely unit in Greensprings Plantation, Williamsburg, VA overlooking the golf course. It is a 4 bedroom 4 bath...lock off unit. Can sleep 12 or 6 on each side. Can use one side and rent out the other! Or get another couple to split the maintenance fee and share the place.


Susan G.
Mar 04, 2009

I paid off the timeshare in full, and just let Shell foreclose. No impact on my credit yet. However my payoff was 60K.


Amma M.
Mar 04, 2009

What to you mean your "payoff" was 60k ?


Sheri K.
Mar 05, 2009

ammam wrote:
I paid off the timeshare in full, and just let Shell foreclose. No impact on my credit yet. However my payoff was 60K.

I'm somewhat confused ...... Shell foreclosed on you then you paid the 60K balance and gave your week back to Shell?


R P.
Mar 05, 2009

I purchased the time share and financed it with Shell for 70k, and paid off the 60k loan balance. I had a dispute with Shell regarding an overpayment of the loan, and they failed to return about $300.00. I attempted to donate the time share, and sell it to no avail. Shell took the time share back due to my nonpayment of $4,900 in maintenance fees for 2008. I requested a copy of the foreclosure statement in 12/08 and have not yet rec'd it. Shell confirmed the foreclosure.


Amma M.
Mar 05, 2009

They are not coming after you for the $4,900? In either case, I think you lucked out, it is worth the money t get out from under. Good Luck!


Lou L.
Mar 05, 2009

What is "shell"? Our timeshare is paid off. Have any of you tried Timeshare Relief, Inc?


Susan G.
Mar 05, 2009

We just used Timeshare relief a couple months ago. If you are interested we could give you the details.


Sheri K.

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